Comments on: The hunt for the lost phone http://stabell.org/2007/01/02/beijing-taxi-lost-phone/ agile software development, python programming, entrepreneurship, life in china Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:22:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.12-alpha by: bartuer http://stabell.org/2007/01/02/beijing-taxi-lost-phone/#comment-702 Sun, 25 Feb 2007 04:30:23 +0000 http://stabell.org/2007/01/02/beijing-taxi-lost-phone/#comment-702 <p>A nice story! cmcc should translate it to chinese and spread this post allover the world, then more and more people will use their location sevice - a backhole for user to hurt his/her cell phone. Hmm, a good idea for user.</p> <p>But, if that theft take battery out and change his SIM card, or his bag is made of some material like aluminum foil(the correct use is wrap food)?</p> A nice story! cmcc should translate it to chinese and spread this post allover the world, then more and more people will use their location sevice - a backhole for user to hurt his/her cell phone. Hmm, a good idea for user.

But, if that theft take battery out and change his SIM card, or his bag is made of some material like aluminum foil(the correct use is wrap food)?

]]> by: Vineet Sharma http://stabell.org/2007/01/02/beijing-taxi-lost-phone/#comment-573 Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:58:40 +0000 http://stabell.org/2007/01/02/beijing-taxi-lost-phone/#comment-573 <p>Hmm thats pretty nasty.</p> Hmm thats pretty nasty.

]]> by: Bjørn http://stabell.org/2007/01/02/beijing-taxi-lost-phone/#comment-570 Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:10:47 +0000 http://stabell.org/2007/01/02/beijing-taxi-lost-phone/#comment-570 <p>The settings on my phone are: SHARE, DON'T SHARE, or ASK ME FOR PERMISSION. I tried with Michael (he's got it set to ASK FOR PERMISSION) and all it asked him was to ALLOW or CANCEL. There was no ALWAYS ALLOW THIS PHONE NUMBER option.</p> The settings on my phone are: SHARE, DON’T SHARE, or ASK ME FOR PERMISSION. I tried with Michael (he’s got it set to ASK FOR PERMISSION) and all it asked him was to ALLOW or CANCEL. There was no ALWAYS ALLOW THIS PHONE NUMBER option.

]]> by: Vineet Sharma http://stabell.org/2007/01/02/beijing-taxi-lost-phone/#comment-569 Tue, 23 Jan 2007 07:59:47 +0000 http://stabell.org/2007/01/02/beijing-taxi-lost-phone/#comment-569 <p>Hey Bjorn, was just giving you a little hard time :) you came out clean just to let you know!! ... Hey i though the service enabling was actually for an individual phone number... From when i played with this service, when a user trys to get your phone's location, you are notified by SMS about the phone number seeking your location and requires you to SMS back with a "Y" or a "AY" .. Y is give this requesting phone user the location data only once, subsequent requests from the user will still be notified & need approval by SMS .... AY is give the requesting phone user access to my location with out prompting me. ... If AY enables everyone that's a real privacy trap, i think it's scary, in which case ivana should turn it off immediately and someone needs to tell china mobile about this.. looking forward to seeing you here for Skiing... cheers! Vineet</p> Hey Bjorn, was just giving you a little hard time :) you came out clean just to let you know!! … Hey i though the service enabling was actually for an individual phone number… From when i played with this service, when a user trys to get your phone’s location, you are notified by SMS about the phone number seeking your location and requires you to SMS back with a “Y” or a “AY” .. Y is give this requesting phone user the location data only once, subsequent requests from the user will still be notified & need approval by SMS …. AY is give the requesting phone user access to my location with out prompting me. … If AY enables everyone that’s a real privacy trap, i think it’s scary, in which case ivana should turn it off immediately and someone needs to tell china mobile about this.. looking forward to seeing you here for Skiing… cheers! Vineet

]]> by: Bjørn http://stabell.org/2007/01/02/beijing-taxi-lost-phone/#comment-566 Tue, 23 Jan 2007 02:13:03 +0000 http://stabell.org/2007/01/02/beijing-taxi-lost-phone/#comment-566 <p>Ouch, that was harsh. It was like I said, it was open from when I was playing with the service before; it's probably at least two years ago so I don't even remember. Looking at the possible settings it appears that it is not possible to limit by phone number, so it is set to respond to ALL requests. (I'll make sure to let Ivana know about that!)</p> <p>I can see the privacy issues involved, and with the current all-or-nothing setting it's not a very useful service. A more useful service might be to have anyone with a user-changeable password be able to query a phone's location. Since you're the only one that knows the password, only you can query the phone's location.</p> Ouch, that was harsh. It was like I said, it was open from when I was playing with the service before; it’s probably at least two years ago so I don’t even remember. Looking at the possible settings it appears that it is not possible to limit by phone number, so it is set to respond to ALL requests. (I’ll make sure to let Ivana know about that!)

I can see the privacy issues involved, and with the current all-or-nothing setting it’s not a very useful service. A more useful service might be to have anyone with a user-changeable password be able to query a phone’s location. Since you’re the only one that knows the password, only you can query the phone’s location.

]]> by: Vineet Sharma http://stabell.org/2007/01/02/beijing-taxi-lost-phone/#comment-565 Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:45:02 +0000 http://stabell.org/2007/01/02/beijing-taxi-lost-phone/#comment-565 <p>Bjorn, taking a hard line with reference to .... " just maybe… I had turned it on on Ivana’s number when I was playing with it before? " .. Now that you have made it open you did enable this facility on Ivana's china mobile service, you not just owe an explaination to Ivana about 'why u had enabled a tracking device for her' but we also need a explanation since Ivana is our good friend and we'd like to stand up for her now. I know Ivana, she's probably too elated that she found her lovely fone but hiding beneith this fact is the question -- Was it a complete accident that her "ni zai na li" status was set to always respond to requests for location coming from bjorn's mobile ... Now explain this to us. You have all my respect and i look forward to your response. Your Good friend, Vineet</p> Bjorn, taking a hard line with reference to …. ” just maybe… I had turned it on on Ivana’s number when I was playing with it before? ” .. Now that you have made it open you did enable this facility on Ivana’s china mobile service, you not just owe an explaination to Ivana about ‘why u had enabled a tracking device for her’ but we also need a explanation since Ivana is our good friend and we’d like to stand up for her now. I know Ivana, she’s probably too elated that she found her lovely fone but hiding beneith this fact is the question — Was it a complete accident that her “ni zai na li” status was set to always respond to requests for location coming from bjorn’s mobile … Now explain this to us. You have all my respect and i look forward to your response. Your Good friend, Vineet

]]> by: Simon http://stabell.org/2007/01/02/beijing-taxi-lost-phone/#comment-504 Sat, 06 Jan 2007 11:14:00 +0000 http://stabell.org/2007/01/02/beijing-taxi-lost-phone/#comment-504 <p>Great story, Bjorn. Glad Ivana got her beloved hand-machine back.</p> Great story, Bjorn. Glad Ivana got her beloved hand-machine back.

]]> by: Chee Ming http://stabell.org/2007/01/02/beijing-taxi-lost-phone/#comment-495 Thu, 04 Jan 2007 01:53:18 +0000 http://stabell.org/2007/01/02/beijing-taxi-lost-phone/#comment-495 <p>Can't stop reading this article till the end. What a 'page-turner'!!! (I can't find another term to explain ;)</p> Can’t stop reading this article till the end. What a ‘page-turner’!!! (I can’t find another term to explain ;)

]]> by: Bjørn http://stabell.org/2007/01/02/beijing-taxi-lost-phone/#comment-493 Tue, 02 Jan 2007 08:17:42 +0000 http://stabell.org/2007/01/02/beijing-taxi-lost-phone/#comment-493 <p>Yeah, kind-of shameful not to have any social bookmarking links on my site. I dug up a WordPress plugin to do the job and added a "Digg this story" link in the article itself. Thanks for the advice Amy!</p> Yeah, kind-of shameful not to have any social bookmarking links on my site. I dug up a WordPress plugin to do the job and added a “Digg this story” link in the article itself. Thanks for the advice Amy!

]]> by: Amy http://stabell.org/2007/01/02/beijing-taxi-lost-phone/#comment-492 Tue, 02 Jan 2007 07:38:00 +0000 http://stabell.org/2007/01/02/beijing-taxi-lost-phone/#comment-492 <p>Congratulate you for finally getting the phone back! Your story showed that smart people do get more (or lose less) then the lazy ones... : )</p> <p>It's such a cool story, you should put a "dig this" link to allow readers dig it.</p> Congratulate you for finally getting the phone back! Your story showed that smart people do get more (or lose less) then the lazy ones… : )

It’s such a cool story, you should put a “dig this” link to allow readers dig it.

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